They are their OWN breed!!!
And...
Let's talk bloodlines.
Since when did a cross bred dog become a purebred dog? Just because American Bullies originated from American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers does NOT mean they're Pit Bulls. First of all, The American Staffordshire Terrier isn't a Pit Bull. Therefore making the cross between the two a mixed breed with a hung pedigree. Dave Wilson has openly ADMITTED to crossing the two breeds together to be less DA and give it more size. It wasn't selectively breeding a Pit Bull. The bloodline he created by breeding the two is what we all know today as Razor Edge. Razor Edge was NEVER a purebred APBT bloodline.
Tony Moore produced "Notorious Juan Gotty" which was later bought by Richard Barajas. Jaun Gotty's registered name is Notorious Juan Gotty (with a "y"). Over the years, it was somehow changed to Gotti (with an "i"). I don't know. These folks is just cray cray. Some say it was the registry's fault for misspelling the name, while others say it just changed over the years. ANYWAY... I wouldn't consider Tony Moore or Richard Barajas to be a "game changer" like Dave Wilson and others. Dave Wilson created mixed dogs to create a new breed. However, don't get it twisted. Dave Wilson wasn't the first and only breeder who helped to create American Bullies. He is however, the most noted breeder. Tony and Richard just bought a dog while the "game" was being "changed". Looking back through Gotty's pedigree, his ancestors do not hold true to APBT standards. Therefore, Gotty/Gotti was not the "game changer", but rather just a popular dog because his owner put forth the effort and time to get him noticed.
Who's to actually say Juan Gotty wasn't a product of hung papers? Nobody will ever actually know. Anyway, basically, Juan Gotty is the reason the American Bully has a bloodline named Gotti.
Back on subject...
Eventually Razor Edge dogs were bred to Gotti dogs. Gotti dogs had a much larger build than Razor Edge dogs to begin with. Gotti dogs were (most still are) shorter and wider than Edge dogs. I've yet to see an American Bully with only Edge or Gotti. A lot of breeders say "Oh my dog is Edge top and bottom". Meaning, their dog doesn't have an Gotti in it's pedigree. Bullllllll Crapppp. Just because the pedigree doesn't have Gottiline's *insert name here*, doesn't mean those dogs are only Edge. My own personal opinion, I think American Bullies get their size from Gottiline.
Razor Edge and Gotti are considered foundation bloodlines... Even though Razor Edge wasn't the beginning of the breed and Juan Gotty/Gotti wasn't the first bred American Bully, Gotty/Gotti and Edge dogs were the biggest "Bully Movement". DAX, Miagi, Remy, Iron Cross, Camelot etc. are strains of Gotti and Edge. Gotti and Edge will always be the foundation bloodlines in which American Bullies will always consist of. Unless their papers are hung..............
So, in conclusion, Edge and Gotti were NEVER American Pit Bull Terrier or American Staffordshire Terrier bloodlines. No breeder of game dogs would even consider TOUCHING an Edge or Gotti dog. Therefore, Edge and Gotti will never make it's way back in as APBT bloodlines. They are neither APBTs or ASTs. They are American Bullies.
My reason for making this post. FACEBOOK OF COURSE! One guy, like hundreds of other unknowing owners, asked what kind of Bully/Pit his dog was and what bloodline he was. Well, for starters, you can't look at a dog and tell it's breed let alone it's bloodlines. So the good ole' Razor Edge; Pit Bull VS American Bully bloodline started.
I stated the facts I have reiterated above. Somehow, it got turned into an argument saying I was incorrect because I said Edge was created when the APBT and AST were crossed. So in THEIR mind, they think that means it is an APBT ANNNNND AST bloodline. NO BITCH! People knew what Dave Wilson was doing. People who wanted to stay true to either breed had nothing to do with him. Therefore, THE BLOODLINES NEVER BECAME A BLOODLINE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE AMERICAN BULLY. If an AST or APBT was registered with Dave Wilson's kennel name, RAZOR EDGE, breeders who weren't apart of the Bully Movement would not breed to his dogs. It's. That. Simple.
Edge was started by crossing two established breeds together. Those dogs were no longer Pit Bulls or Am Staffs. They were Pit Bull/Am Staff mix. That ISN'T A breed. A breed is a pure dog. A mixed breed is not pure! It really isn't THAT hard to follow. After generations of breeding the mixed breed dogs the same way to have them remain CONSISTENT, it became a new breed. Thus, the American Bully. Who woulddathunk?
Ugh, I swear. Folks! Please!!!! PLEASE stop using google as a way to get your information.
Also, before you jump on a Facebook post to call somebody ignorant, PLEASE know and understand the meaning of ignorance.
One is not ignorant because they have said something you disagree with. Lack of knowledge makes one ignorant. Using expletives does not make one ignorant. Lack of knowledge makes on ignorant. Knowing MORE than you does not make one ignorant. Lack of knowledge makes one ignorant. LACK. OF. KNOWLEDGE. = IGNORANCE!
